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20/11/2017

Pelican - Nov 20 Log day 002 Wow what about last night sailing

As expected Chris was right about the weather, we had a fairly bouncy night on Pelican, we also saw a few boats that were having 'issues' and I don't discount ourselves from that. We lost a halyard up the mast which necessitated someone going up the mast to retrieve the errant halyard.Early evening we lost the use of our cruising shoot.... not much more I can say about that. All on board are ok except our crew who has yet to find his sea legs... and we all know what that means. Had a great chicken curry to night we have chicken stew...... guess the captain wants to eat chicken. Today had dawned bright and sunny with light wind and we are generally going in the direction we want. All's fine on Pelican. read more...


24/11/2017

Passepartout - No motoring for bilingual Passepartout

Despite being in cruising division H the temperaments on board Passepartout are in full-on racing mode. No motoring penalties for us as we tweak and sail change 24/7; religiously download weather GRIB files; debate wind arrows and best course scenarios; eagerly plot competitor positions and; stalk SSB scheds to relish in other’s tales of windless woes.The origin of our race mode temperament comes from our youthful days as shorthanded ocean racing multihull sailors which laid a solid foundation for ‘no pain no gain’.As of yesterday, before last night’s despairing light airs, we calculated that we were coming first in Division H and had also knocked-off the boats in divisions G, E and F.On occasions some rituals remind us we are ion the edge of “cruising” mode as we trawl for fish, knit,. read more...


24/11/2017

Sunrise - Tag 5 (23.11.)

Jetzt geht die Party richtig los! Ein Blick in die Geburtsdaten der Teilnehmer beschert uns die Erkenntnis, dass zwei der Mitreisenden sich dieses einmalige Abenteuer wg. runder Geburtstage gegönnt haben (Nachträglich alles Gute, André und Hanno), aber noch besser ist, dass wir zwei aktuelle Geburtstage in Folge feiern können. Heute lassen wir Ortwin hoch leben und morgen - abwarten!Wir fahren unter Motor! Das verdient aus zwei Gründen ein Ausrufezeichen. Zum einen, weil wir das selbstverständlich nur tun, weil ein (noch nicht) georteter Kriechstrom sonst unsere Energiespeicher aussaugen würden und nicht etwa weil wir uns in einer ausgedehnten Flaute befinden. 😉 Zum anderen aber vor allem deshalb, weil es in der Nacht schlagartig Aus mit dem Motoren ist. Notstopp und ein Dahindümpeln. read more...


24/11/2017

Hummingbird - Half way party

We’re over halfway across the Atlantic! St Lucia is now closer than Cape Verde, less than 1000nm to go! The atmosphere on board Hummingbird is normally a solid mix of cockpit dancing/ evening socials/ night watch giggles anyway, but with this official crossing of the mid-Atlantic ridge being kind of a big deal we’ve upped our game to a grand two-day celebration.Much of our great progress so far has been down to our lightweight spinnaker, which manages to keep us sailing at the 6 knot mark even in breezes as slight as 8 knots true. A total life saver. We’ve had perhaps an average wind speed of 7 – 13 knots from the NE – ENE this whole passage so far, with the occasional sprinkle of a very light and fluffy 6 knots or less. For over a week we’ve pressed on without resorting to the engine as. read more...


24/11/2017

Hot Stuff - josies blog - thursday 23/11

Our fifth day at sea started with a 2am wake up call to start watch. Lucky it's a short commute! Not long after being on deck we hear some big splashes, puffs of air and shadows in the bioluminescence- we were joined by dolphins! Very cool and quite a relief after talking of kraken, mega sharks and sea monsters. Very light winds mean tricky sailing as we head south to the waypoint. The crew is making the most of the calm, cranking up the r&b and doing laundry, hair braiding and boat showers (a bucket of sea water). And most importantly some excellent snacking (especially now I have found the boat stash of Nutella).To top off the day we saw a turtle! Just chilling out in the waves (like in finding nemo!) The sea and sky changes every moment and is always spectacular, another great day. read more...


24/11/2017

Charm - Day 8 - giving thanks

As we sat down to enjoy our burgers (beef for most and quinoa for Tim) and hot dogs with sides of mashed potatoes, cranberries and fruit salad (sort of 4th of July meets Thanksgiving), I realized how lucky we are to have Tim and Kent on the boat.Preparing for and undertaking a trip like this on a boat with a family with 3 children isn't how everyone might choose to spend a month of their lives.So I'm dedicating this entry to the two of them and hope to give you a sense of how lucky we are to have them on board.Kent's involvement started more than 20 years ago when he and Joe sailed together in Oregon.Then he and his lovely wife, Heather, hosted us on their boat, Hiatus, while they were cruising in Central America. At some point in the past year, Kent agreed to help us with the. read more...


23/11/2017

Kiloran of Edinburgh - Blog

Day 8 (again?)Death by ArticulateBetween a breathtaking sunset and a smoldering moonset (which, by the way, David has guessed is 800 miles away, making it closer than London...) our entire crew nearly perished. Had the deadly event occured our headstones would read:"14 degrees North by 45 degrees WestDeath by Articulate".Other than that unspeakable game, which has left me in flustered tears and desperately needing a pee along with a tattered team moral, we've had a fairly pleasant day. We kicked off with a group reading of Aiden's (Erica's lover's) reply to our questions put in the previous blog which described, at serious length, the patterns of the moon and the hunting patterns of hungry sharks. We then promptly slept. Then we had some "grilled cheeses" as recommended by the chefs on. read more...


23/11/2017

North Star - USA - Log Day 4 - Please send wind

As with most boats at sea, mealtimes are the highlight of the day. This is true aboard North Star. Today was Thanksgiving, which we celebrated appropriately with a grand turkey dinner with all the trimmings. We had to make a couple of substitutions since we didn't have any turkey. With grand meals which involve multiple cooks and a galley big enough for only one, the meal preparation is somewhat of a dance. At the right moment one cook steps aside and the other takes over, like a symphony everything builds to the finale with a crescendo as the meal is served. Rick and Henry's performance was brilliant! The "turkey" dinner was perfect!Just as we sat down to dine we were visited by a huge pod of dolphins. They always are welcome but seem to appear only when you least expect them and by the. read more...


23/11/2017

Windseeker - Windseeker

--Dijous 23 de novembre de 2017Ei pipol,Ja tornem a ser aquí. S’ha fet llarga l’espera del post? Doncs per nosaltres aquests dos últims dies han estat bastant insofribles! La calma s’ha apoderat de l’Atlàntic i les puntes de vent no passaven dels 10 nusos i nosaltres hem estat moltíssimes hores entre 2 i 4 nusos... com si entréssim a port!La nit passada ha estat, potser, la més frustrant. Hem provat totes les configuracions de veles possible. Cap d’elles ha aportat velocitat ni estabilitat al barco. Si veieu les traces a les aplicacions veureu com de voltes hem donat fent el windseeker. Tant és així que hem acabat tots composant una versió pròpia de la cançó de la Trinca que la tornada fa així... Que lluny és el carib. Que bonic és arribar-hi. Però de calmes n’estem tips...Quan la. read more...


Windseeker - Windseeker
Windseeker - Windseeker
Windseeker - Windseeker
Windseeker - Windseeker
23/11/2017

NoStress - Log Day 5 - Soggy Bottoms

It was a frustrating night at sea last night.Little or no wind and a rolling swell meant the boat (and contents) were rattled like a snow-globe in a toddler’s hands for about 5 hours. The coffee machine made a bid for freedom and Paul had his first intake of non-fermented grapes for a long time as fruit fell onto him from the storage nets.Eventually the wind arrived. It started on the nose again but has gradually shifted to afford us the chance to make some much needed progress West. The breeze built steadily through the day and we expect to follow our current course for another day or so until we encounter the next weather system.It’s been a good day’s sailing.Although “Jennie” remains quite fickle (with a lot of heel on a port tack we discovered she doesn’t like being bent over too far. read more...


NoStress - Log Day 5 - Soggy Bottoms
NoStress - Log Day 5 - Soggy Bottoms
NoStress - Log Day 5 - Soggy Bottoms
NoStress - Log Day 5 - Soggy Bottoms
21/11/2017

Meltemi - Nov 21 Tag 1 und 2 - Tubulenter Start

Mit großer Freude kann ich berichten, daß die Meltemi nach langem Bangen und Hoffen nun doch tatsächlich an der ARC 2017 teilnimmt.Bis zum letzten Moment hat die gesamte Crew der Meltemi den Atem angehalten, weil nicht klar war, ob das Schiff bis zum Start segel klar sein würde. Auf dem Weg nach Gran Canaria hatte die Beneteau 54 in einem Sturm große Schäden davon getragen. Der Skipper musste mit Not Pinne in den Hafen einlaufen, weil unter anderem das Ruder defekt war, und seit dem wurde mit Hochdruck bis spät abends an den Reparaturen gearbeitet.Die Nerven vom Team lagen blank, alle benachbarten Schiffe fieberten mit, und wir hatten das Mitleid vieler Mitsegler, was uns jedoch wenig Trost schenken konnte in dieser Situation.Die Zeit rannte uns davon. Während die meisten anderen Schiffe. read more...


23/11/2017

Blonde Moment - blonde moment thursday 23 nov

Another frustrating day from the sailing point of view with minimal wind coming from the wrong direction, in that it's coming from where we need to go, but that's sailing! As always though there are big positives, such as a swim off the back of the boat in surprisingly warm waters, a flying fish show where a large shoal of Mahi Mahi followed us at the stern of the boat for hours, jumping out of the sea to entertain and cleverly not biting our bait when we tried to catch them, which would have been mean anyway after the fun they gave us!More dolphins today, fresh home (or boat!) made yoghurt and a fabulous sunset to end a fabulous day, more than making up for the lack of miles covered! We feel very privileged and lucky to have this experience, particularly when we hear the weather in the. read more...


23/11/2017

Susan Ann II - Log day 5 - Killer Whales at play!

As if sailing at 7 knots on a warm sunny day wasn’t enough we were visited by a pod of Killer Whales that joined us and played like dolphins in our bow wave for around 10 minutes.The whole crew were up and in awe as these huge mammals danced gracefully in front of Susan Ann II, however Hayley was physically trembling from the adrenaline and a bit of a worry that one of these huge animals would unwittingly damage the boat.I think all five of us agreed that this visit was one of the most amazing moments of our lives.Thank you Mother Nature.Love from The Daley Adventure. Ximage1. read more...


Susan Ann II - Log day 5 - Killer Whales at play!
Susan Ann II  - Log day 5 - Killer Whales at play!
23/11/2017

Helen - Day 7 - Mutiny averted

We have crossed the halfway point and have only 966 miles to go before I leave Yacht Helen.Yesterday was a challenging day. It all started when the catering department made some lovely scones for afternoon tea.The first argument was over how do you pronounce the word "scone". There was clearly an english north/south divide amongst the crew.Then things started to get ugly. Do you put the clotted cream on first and then the jam or is it jam first and then the clotted cream? It got so heated that I thought that we may have a mutiny on our hands!So I stepped in and said that when Iguanas see food they eat it. So we did and they were delicious.When I was on the Island of Sao Vincente (Mindelo is the capital), I met an orphaned street kid. I ask him what he wanted most in life. His reply was. read more...


Charm - Atlantic experience game
Charm - Atlantic experience game
23/11/2017

Charm - Happy Thanksgiving!

For Thanksgiving, we have decided to share our Atlantic crossing experience with you.It will help if you do this with friends.Print out the photo and post it in a convenient place.Look at it for 3 hours.Find a friend and pass on the photo.Tell your friend to look at it for 3 hours.Repeat this process for 2 more rotations.Then turn out the lights and do it 4 more times.Continue this for at least two weeks - longer if you really like to suffer.Enjoy!I've also included a photo of our big catch of the day.Joe was experimenting with facial expressions.I asked for cheesy grin.I think I got maniacal glare.It's better than the drunken leer he tried on before that.What the heck -it's a holiday.I'll include both for your viewing pleasure.. read more...


Charm - Drunken leer
Charm - Drunken leer
Charm - Maniacal glare
Charm - Maniacal glare
23/11/2017

Neverland - Neverland Leg 2 - Days 7 & 8

We have no wind. Ok no wind is a bit of an exaggeration but I consider 6 knots of wind resulting in a maximum boat speed of 3.5 knots the equivalent to having no wind. We have been bobbing along and sometimes it feels like our only forward momentum in the gentle nudge from the following sea. Light winds mean slamming sails which, for a long enough period of time, is enough to send most people stir crazy.We’ve tried sailing at a wind angle of 140 degrees and putting the Spinnaker up (or ‘tissue’ as my friend Wendy calls it). We picked up speed which was great…but the angle we were sailing meant we were almost going backwards…not great. The tissue came down and we have reverted back to the typical goose wing set up.HOWEVER…we will not let our horribly slow progress drag us into a state of. read more...


Neverland - Neverland Leg 2 - Days 7 & 8
Neverland - Neverland Leg 2 - Days 7 & 8
23/11/2017

Neverland - Neverland Leg 2 - Days 5 & 6

Mr Marlin came back. Thankfully not to pick off another lure (he’s obviously more intelligent than that). Instead he swam in our wake, then darting under, circling us and returning to our wake. We apologised profusely for the altercation the previous night. He didn’t seem the vengeful type and after strutting his stuff for 20 minutes disappeared. We haven’t seen him since and are hopeful he has called off the heavies.Since leaving Sao Vicente we haven't had more than 15 knots of wind since and that was only for 5 minutes when we went through a tiny squall. For most of the time we have had between 8 and 12 knots so our progress is slower than we’d hoped. Having thought we would arrive around 30th November it is now far more likely to be at some point on 3rd December. Urgh. We’ll have to. read more...


Neverland - Neverland Leg 2 - Days 5 & 6
Neverland - Neverland Leg 2 - Days 5 & 6
23/11/2017

Ellen - Day 4

Hi all! We have a quite normal day, sailing in light breeze and a Maui-Maui again. A delicious tuna for lunch (catched yesterday) and chicken to dinner. Nice evening with a thin moon come up over the horizon and get down in an hour again.Best regards!. read more...


23/11/2017

Blue Top - BlueTop 25112017

Le blog du TOP n°5 du jeudi 23/11/2017Bonjour, bonjour, il est 12h TU.Quelques compléments au complément envoyé par Nono hier au soir. Cette nuit, changement de quart àminuit, nous héritons d'une vitesse zéro et quasi l'absence de vent. On redescent le petit spi et on reste avec la grand voile unpetit moment. Le vent tourne encore et on sort le foc ! Ouf 1/2 kt !Deux explications, d'abord les quarts. On les commence à 20h - minuit, minuit - 4h, 4h - 8h. Chaque nuit le tour est inversé. Jesuis avec Nono et Catherine avec Bernard. Sinon, les Velcros (trade mark pour velours crochet),certains disent scratchaujourd'hui et d'autres plus incultes disent crash. Alors les velcros, pas Velcro D ni Velcro T comme les Dupond/t, ce sont Bernardet Jean-Mi qui ne se rasent pas pour le moment, d'où le. read more...


23/11/2017

Lothlorien - Noch mehr Delphine und eine neue "Taktik"

Heute hat uns tatsächlich noch einmal eine größere Schule von Delphinen begleitet. Die "Lykke" haben wir dafür mittlerweile aus den Augen verloren. Wir haben aber noch Funkkontakt und wissen seit gestern Abend, dass ihr Motor wieder läuft. Leider zickt jetzt stattdessen ihr Stromgenerator und vermutlich muss die Tiefkühltruhe schnell leer gegessen werden.Auch wir kämpfen z.T. mit dem vielen frischen Gemüse und Obst, das wir an Bord haben. Zum einen müssen wir einige Sachen schnell essen, aus Angst, sie werden uns schlecht (ein paar schimmelnde Apfelsinen sind schon über Bord gegangen). Zum anderen wollen wir die Sachen ja möglichst lange aufbewahren. Bei den Bananen kommen wir mit dem Essen auf jeden Fall nicht mit und gerade ist ein Bananenbrot im Ofen, um zumindest ein paar der. read more...


Lothlorien - Noch mehr Delphine und eine neue "Taktik"
Lothlorien - Noch mehr Delphine und eine neue
23/11/2017

La Cigale - Day 5 - 23 November - On a roll of the dice

Learning to piece together more and more of the sky at night like some giant astronomical jigsaw puzzle. Just as I had figured out Pegasus last night on watch, I sighted a shooting star to the west. Made a wish for the well-being of the journey, though maybe I should have been more specific about winds as we are motoring right now and heading towards skirting a gale! TOGINA has long since passed ahead, and this morning we were in company of SKIATHOS and BAHARII. We consulted the ARC t-shirt and surprises to find the latter is not part of the ARC. "Maybe she's on her way to Canada..." observed Helen ;-) Our course is a bit of a gamble, fingers crossed it pays off! It was apt then to spend the rest of the morning learning a new dice game - "Dudo" (Spanish for "I doubt") - thanks to Harley,. read more...


23/11/2017

Lexington - Captain Bob: Nelson Mandela

Yesterday I went will the crew of Owl to visit a museum for Nelson Mandela. As usual it was a long drive to the site but it was enjoyable and informative. I knew some of Mandela's life but quiet honestly not as much as I should have. It is inspiring how some people can make such a difference In the lives of so many people. To me his story was like Martin Luther King. They both was against massive odds and persisted while making great sacrifices. South Africa still has a lot to do in improving the lives of the black population and it will continue to be difficult because there is no easy answer.Probably the best thing is to improve the overall economy as raising water floats all boats. Education for the youth is probably the next most important step. Solving government corruption is also. read more...


Lexington - Captain Bob: Nelson Mandela
Lexington - Captain Bob:  Nelson Mandela
Lexington - Captain Bob: Nelson Mandela
Lexington - Captain Bob:  Nelson Mandela
Lexington - Captain Bob: Nelson Mandela
Lexington - Captain Bob:  Nelson Mandela
Lexington - Captain Bob: Nelson Mandela
Lexington - Captain Bob:  Nelson Mandela
23/11/2017

Blue Bayou - STOP PRESS - Human Cluedo

Despite being a novice, the Plane Driver has proved to be a natural at the game, with 2 kills.Moirsie on the lazarette with a book, and Stods at the anchor locker with binoculars.So 2 down, 3 to go. Nail biting stuff. We will keep you posted.. read more...


23/11/2017

Avel Biz - J+4 Météo complexe

Jeudi 23 novembre 201712h UTC26°13 N23°28 WDistance sur 24h : 107 millesDistance restante : 2221 millesMétéo complexeCool pour la vie à bord mais compliqué pour les options de route cesdernières 24h. Le front est passé , ciel bleu , petits airs on passe dugénois au code 0 puis spi symétrique tangonné pour la nuit mais le venttombe à 20h...Les fichiers météo annoncent du vent SW à NW forts sur la routede l'orthodromie avec des calmes à suivre. Nous arrêtons notre progression Wet descendons pour trouver les Alizés. Le point 25°N/25°W recommandé parJean-Yves Bernot(météorologue et routeur renommé) est sur la route, c'eststatistiquement rassurant!On mange frais salades, avocats, tomates ; on se débarbouille à l'eaudouce; les quarts sont reposants...C'est comme une croisière d'été. read more...


23/11/2017

Lei Lei - 4. Tag auf hoher See - Warten auf Wind

Wir motoren nun schon seit 25 Stunden. Das ist ganz schön eintönig. Um uns herum nur Flaute und träge Atlantikdünung. Die anderen Segler haben uns inzwischen auch verlassen. Nach dem 3.Tag sehen wir nur noch einen am Horizont. Motort wie wir. Eigentlich sind wir ja zum Segeln hergekommen, aber dieses riesige Gebiet ohne Wind hat uns fest im Griff. Unser Volvo Penta schnurrt brav vor sich hin, nur ab und zu gibt er Unmutsäußerungen ab, indem er plötzlich die Leistung herunterregelt und für uns unverständliche Fehlercodes anzeigt. Die Auflösung dieser Geheimnisse steht natürlich nicht in der Bedienungsanleitung, also sind wir auf Vermutungen angewiesen. Ich vermute, dass eine Tankentlüftung schlecht funktioniert und dadurch ein Vakuum entsteht. Wenn die Ansaugarbeit zu heftig wird meckert. read more...


23/11/2017

Manihi - Quelle belle journée !

Vous ne pouvez pas vous imaginer à quel point nous savourons cette journée ... Peut-être tout d'abord parce que nous avons tous bien dormi cette nuit ; pas de vent, une mer plate. Si ce n'avait été le bruit du moteur, une nuit de rêve ...Ensuite parce que cette journée a été bien remplie. Si je vous dis 25°25.683 Nord/23°27.290 Ouest ça ne vous dira peut-être rien, mais pour nous ça veut dire beaucoup ... Imaginez un petit coin tranquille, au milieu de la nature, par un beau temps calme, avec seulement des oiseaux pour venir interrompre le silence. C'est ce que nous y avons trouvé ... Notez les coordonnées sur votre GPS voiture, vous aurez une destination de rêve pour votre prochaine sortie ! Charmés par l'endroit, nous avons fait une petite halte, histoire d'en profiter. Pour se. read more...


23/11/2017

Altair - YB Connect Message from Clinton Bolton

Hello from the Atlantic Time Zone! ALTAIR is having a good sail today after a rough night with big swell and squalls. We have recovered from yesterday's breakdown, where we managed to tear the port spinnaker halyard block attachment off the mast, and are back on track with the A3 kite up. After a week gybing downwind, we have caught our shift and are sailing the rhumbline to St. Lucia. The speed over ground is topping out at 12 knots, and the finishing time bets have been placed. Happy Thanksgiving to the Yanks at sea. I'm off to eat my slice of Turducken!--Transmitted by Clinton Bolton using YB Connect (www.ybtracking.com). read more...


23/11/2017

Shepherd Moon - Squeaky clean

How to judge a day? Yesterday was a great success on the domestic front. We ran the water maker for two hours and so got our water tanks full to the brim again, which meant we could all shower. It is difficult to explain just how nice it feels to be squeaky clean again after three or four days of feeling continually sticky. The problem is that no sooner have you dried yourself than the clamminess starts to creep back. We also hoovered (or, more accurately, Dysoned) and cleaned the inside of the boat from top to bottom, and as mentioned yesterday, Vanessa even broke out the polish.Things were not quite so successful on the outside of the boat. On the plus side, nothing broke. Even the Blue Water Runner refrained from making another leap for the sea, but our progress westwards was. read more...


Barefoot - barefoot - tag 4 fotos
Barefoot - barefoot - tag 4 fotos
Barefoot - barefoot - tag 4 fotos
Barefoot - barefoot - tag 4 fotos
23/11/2017

Barefoot - Barefoot - Tag 4 - 23.11.17 - unser erstes Highlight: ATLANTIC big 4!

Barefoot - Tag 4 - 23.11.17 - unser erstes Highlight: ATLANTIC big 4!Um es direkt vorneweg zu sagen: gesegelt sind wir heute nur so ca 2 Stunden, also kein segelhighlight, aber was dann folgte......Von den vielen Delphinen gestern Vormittag hatten wir ja schon berichtet, das war 1 von 4.Gegen Nachmittag dann realen wir auf eine Gruppe von ca. 10 - 12 Wale und ließen unser Boot mit ihnen treiben. Die Tiere schwammen in aller Seelenruhe durch de Ozean und wurden zunehmend neugieriger, immer in sicherem Abstand zu uns. Regelmäßig konnten wir sowohl ihr Atmen sehen als auch hören. Ab und zu schaute mal einer mit dem Kopf raus, einmal Gabs sogar einen angedeuteten bauchplatscher! Sehr beeindruckend!!! Das war dann 2 von 4.Als wir uns dann wieder in Bewegung Richtung St. Lucia setzen wollten,. read more...


Barefoot - barefoot - tag 4 fotos
Barefoot - barefoot - tag 4 fotos
Barefoot - barefoot - tag 4 fotos
Barefoot - barefoot - tag 4 fotos
Barefoot - barefoot - tag 4 fotos
Barefoot - barefoot - tag 4 fotos
23/11/2017

Marisja - Dag 7 party!

Gisteravond zijn wij wederom zuiderlijker gaan zeilen. De voorspelling isdat daar meer wind blijft dan in het noorden. Na de heerlijke spagetti bolognese van Nikki en het laatste stukje MahiMahi hebben wij vannacht doorgezeild met de gennaker erop, om meer mijlen te maken en de snelheid erin te houden. Bijkomend effect isdat we ook minder rollen en beter slapen als je geen wacht hebt. De wachten inde nacht met gennaker er op zijn 3 uur en met 2 personen. Een stuk gezelliger, maar wel iets vermoeiender!De wind bleef redelijk aanhouden en de snelheid varierde tussen de 5 totuitschieters naar 8 knopen.   Vanmorgen toch maar weer terug gegepen, omdat wij dachten dat die hoekbeter zou zijn voor de VMG. Helaas zakt de wind eruit en zijn wij wederom aanhet dobberen met 4 knopen... Dus toch. read more...